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Monday, 06th July 2009
Name: JLL
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 03:13:05 PM
         follow up to post by MoH   [ref]  
C'mon MoH! Whats another 30 years champ? LOL

Name: the growler
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 03:10:37 PM
         follow up to post by Gizmo   [ref]  
Inu and Kemp are both still contracted,so theres no point in even discussing the possibility of them joining the Dogs or anyone else.
The guy we should be trying to target,is Turner from Melbourne.
Fast,and a real thinking winger,and he has experince in big games.
I bet his asking price is not in the same ballpark as Inu & Kemp.

Name: MoH
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 03:10:37 PM
Latest player charge list, Hinchcliffe and Benji Marshall

Storm's hooker Hinchcliffe suspended
A AP - July 6, 2009, 2:38 pm
Melbourne reserve hooker Ryan Hinchcliffe is facing a one game suspension after being charged with striking by the NRL judiciary on Monday.

Hinchcliffe was charged following the match video review of the Storm's 18-14 win over Newcastle Knights on Saturday, and will miss his side's round 19 clash with Parramatta.

Wests Tigers playmaker Benji Marshall was charged for a grapple tackle during his side's 54-20 victory over South Sydney but can escape a ban if he takes an early guilty plea.

He'll miss a game if he contests the charge and loses.

http://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/article/-/5705807

Name: MoH
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 03:07:05 PM
         follow up to post by ButtNaked2004   [ref]  
They are going to win it one of these years, I just hope it is not this one. I may be dreaming but wouldn't it be nice to go from wooden spooners to premiers, seriously, how good would this be.

Name: ButtNaked2004
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:55:07 PM
         follow up to post by bulldozer   [ref]  
Haha the premiership DVD liner is gold. I think I should use that on my Dragons mates as well.

Name: Fender
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:53:09 PM
         re: Roosters  ::   follow up to post by Trippa man   [ref]  
Hahahahaha!

Name: bulldozer
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:48:53 PM
         follow up to post by IanC   [ref]  
If this is the case I hope you live for at least another 50 years because I hate the Dragons with a passion. I have lived in the St George area all my life & all my mates go for the Dragons. Every year it's the same old story from them. "This is our year..We are gonna win it" then they choke in the finals.

I copped plenty from them over the years especially with last years wooden spoon & the debacle in our last game. But one thing I ask that makes them shut up is "So how many premiership DVD's of the dragons do you have?"

Answer of course is zero!!!

Name: Trippa man
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:36:28 PM
         Roosters  
Haha...Roosters sign Daniel Conn for 2 years

Name: scojo
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:33:18 PM
         follow up to post by Old Dog   [ref]  
I'm not a Billy Connolly fan either but I remember he said once that if Australia ever needed an enema they'd stick it in in Brisbane.

Name: Fender
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:28:57 PM
         follow up to post by Brad   [ref]  
I'm told Hector tipped a Dragons v Cowboys Grand Final with Panthers winning the spoon.

Name: JLL
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:28:06 PM
         follow up to post by Gizmo   [ref]  
Full credit to you though! LOL

Im sure Ian would agree?

Name: Gizmo
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:22:44 PM
         follow up to post by JLL   [ref]  
You can't blame a guy for trying :)

Name: rooney
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:18:28 PM
         follow up to post by MoH   [ref]  
She will be back shortly just a bit flat chat at the moment.

Name: MoH
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:18:05 PM
         follow up to post by JLL   [ref]  
That's right

Name: JLL
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:17:13 PM
         follow up to post by Gizmo   [ref]  
Oi! Leave Holdsworth out of it,LOL

Name: Old Dog
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:14:18 PM
I am not a big Billy Connolly fan but found this mildly amusing and it makes me wonder if IanC has any scottish blood in him.


Hello, my name is Billy and I suffer from guilt for not forwarding 50 billion **** chain letters sent to me by people who actually believe, if you send them on, a poor six-year-old girl in Scotland with a breast on her forehead will be able to raise enough money to have it removed before her redneck parents sell her to a travelling freak show.

And, do you honestly believe that Bill Gates is going to give $1000 to you, and everyone to whom you send 'his' email?
How stupid are we?

Ooooh, looky here! If I scroll down this page and make a wish, I'll get laid by a super model I just happen to run into the next day!

What a bunch of utter bullshit.

Maybe the evil chain letter leprechauns will come into my house and sodomise me in my sleep for not continuing a chain letter that was started by St Peter in 5AD and brought to this country by midget pilgrim stowaways on the Endeavour.

**** 'em!!

If you're going to forward something, at least send me something mildly amusing.

I've seen all the 'send this to 10 of your closest friends, and this poor, wretched excuse for a human being will somehow receive a nickel from some omniscient being' forwards about 90 times. I don't **** care.

Show a little intelligence and think about what you're actually contributing to by sending out these forwards. Chances are, it's our own unpopularity.

The point being?

If you get some chain letter that's threatening to leave you shagless or luckless for the rest of your life, delete it.

If it's funny, send it on.

Don't piss people off by making them feel guilty about a leper in Botswana with no teeth who has been tied to the arse of a dead elephant for 27 years and whose only salvation is the 5 cents per letter he'll receive if you forward this email.

Now forward this to everyone you know. Otherwise, tomorrow morning your underwear will turn carnivorous and will consume your genitals.

Have a nice day.

Billy Connolly

PS Send me 15 bucks and then **** off.

Name: ButtNaked2004
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:14:16 PM
         re: Predict the score  ::   follow up to post by Cement   [ref]  
I'm hoping we win and win well. It's gonna be a tough game and for sure it's the game of the round. We haven't been the best of teams in the last 3 weeks but we have been winning against teams that many people predicted we wouldn't beat and it's been like that all year so tonight isn't any different.

Name: Scarface
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:13:51 PM
         follow up to post by IanC   [ref]  
Followed by many more years of just the normal level of mayhem, right?

Name: Gizmo
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:12:35 PM
         follow up to post by Gen_Klink   [ref]  
Inu without doubt would be the best option if available even if it meant losing a number of players including Millard and Holdsworth.

Name: Nathan B
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:11:55 PM
         follow up to post by Gen_Klink   [ref]  
Inu has all the potential in the world, but I wonder about his mindset. I think he's too laid back even with the ball in his hands. Idris seems like totally laid back, but once he's got the ball he wants to run the f*ck over you. I don't get that feeling from Inu.

Even still, I really do rate him and am probably higher on him than others on this page. I'd go as high as $200k, but that's it.


Name: the growler
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:07:21 PM
         re: Inu  ::   follow up to post by KCAMS   [ref]  
Now that would be the perfect scenario,but some fool within the club has already signed these inept guys for 201O - Dont you think that move kind of spolied our chances of picking up another top quality player or 2,as well as securing an upgrade for a few of our stars ?

Name: IanC
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:03:54 PM
         follow up to post by Scarface   [ref]  
The marriage was necessary once I found out we were going to Australia as a result of a company transfer. It was a few months of utter mayhem!

Name: Gen_Klink
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:01:30 PM
If Inu is on offer he should be taken in a heartbeat. We all know what kind of talent he showed 2 years ago. Yes yes i know it was a long time ago but talent doesn't get lost but confidence does.

Would be a sensation outside Idris!

Name: MoH
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 02:00:14 PM
         re: Inu  ::   follow up to post by KCAMS   [ref]  
I disagree with you there mate, Hayne's got class written all over him, look at his performance in the origin. You need instinct and timing to score that try and make the intercept in the second game. Add to that his speed and you got a player worthy of an Aussie jersey.

Name: Scarface
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:58:20 PM
         follow up to post by IanC   [ref]  
So you and the missus emigrated to Australia after only a few months of marriage? Good decision in the end :-)

Name: IanC
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:58:05 PM
         re: Inu  ::   follow up to post by Nathan B   [ref]  
LOL Harsh but fair

Name: Nathan B
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:56:26 PM
         re: Inu  ::   follow up to post by KCAMS   [ref]  
You "don't get caught up on hype ever" and yet you're still rambling on about Inu 2 years since he's done anything decent?

I guess dominating an Origin series a matter of weeks ago is nothing like playing some good games for Parra a matter of years ago!

Name: MoH
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:54:42 PM
         follow up to post by Rooney   [ref]  
Where is your cousin these days mate, she doesn't post anymore.

Name: Gigolo
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:48:14 PM
         re: Inu  ::   follow up to post by KCAMS   [ref]  
Mate I don't worry about the hype I have watched Hayne this year and really believe he has improved his attitude. He was awesome in SOO2 and pretty much kept us in the game by himself.

He still has the odd mistake in his game but that's because he tries things and that is not the worst thing to have.

In contrast I actually felt Inu was always a shade overrated. He is very quick and has dazzling footwork, he is also a very accomplished goalkicker but for mine at $275k he doesn't bring it regularly enough.

At 150-180K he would be a good punt but I doubt Parra would accept that unless they signed Tuquiri.

Name: Cement
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:46:05 PM
         re: Predict the score  ::   follow up to post by ButtNaked2004   [ref]  
This is probably how it will go tonight. We will score first, Manly then square up, we will put on another around 32 minutes, Manly likely to run one in following that. Around 12-10 to us at halftime, but the key to the win will be, we often score from 40-48minutes, by which time it wil be 18-10, a couple of tries each with us sealing it with a try in the 73rd minute for a 30-22 win. Simple really, no need to even play the game.

Name: BlueNoonz
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:35:43 PM
         follow up to post by Slinky   [ref]  
MattO will be awfully jealous!

You playing the field, Slink?

Name: carms
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:33:29 PM
         follow up to post by ZAP   [ref]  
You are spot on!!

Name: pauld
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:31:38 PM
         follow up to post by Slinky   [ref]  
It will be quite difficult but I appreciate the sentiment!

Name: KCAMS
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:26:41 PM
         follow up to post by ZAP   [ref]  
Whist St George have done a great job in virtually dismissing the ex Illawarra club from the merger apart from raiding its juniors and using there ground once in a while, unless the name changes as i suspect soone enough back to St George Dragons, St George Illawarra Dragons is a new team. Cannot have your cake and eat it too. Illawarra has got the wrong end of the deal. No fault of St George though, they are are more passionate supporter base and club and hence have taken a strangehold on the merger which has become a takeover.

Name: ZAP
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:25:57 PM
         follow up to post by carms   [ref]  
Wow! ok you win..that must have been tough, especially if they are the old school italians - the ones that came over in the 50's and still think italy is the same as they left it 60 years ago!

Name: dpdoggy
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:24:38 PM
         follow up to post by ZAP   [ref]  
youre more than likely right - but in the heat of battle logic often goes out of the window on their part. While they may have premierships to their name the joint venture has never actually won one. Nothing can change that fact.

Name: KCAMS
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:22:17 PM
         re: Inu  ::   follow up to post by Gigolo   [ref]  
Please look beyond the media hype. I can guarantee within 6 months the hype of Hayne will be over. In fact 6 to 8 weeks Hayne was going ordinary for parra.

As most on here would realise, i dont get caught up on hyper ever. Unless it is deserved, like our club's resurgence. Never liked Hayne as a footballer. Very deliberate and manufactured. He can put the cue in the rack during games.

Inu is a confidence player with natural gift. He is just one of those rare talents. Parra just dont realise they have another Steve Ella. I hope we do.

Name: ZAP
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:22:16 PM
         follow up to post by JLL   [ref]  
If thats the case then good!

Name: Dog-Sothoth
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:21:57 PM
         follow up to post by MoH   [ref]  
LOL!!!

Name: Dog-Sothoth
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:21:07 PM
         follow up to post by Adz   [ref]  
At least he won't be ready for Origin 3!

Name: carms
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:19:27 PM
         follow up to post by ZAP   [ref]  
If you think Calabrese are hard- headed(and I admit we are stubborn)try getting along with Sicilian in-laws!!!!!Arrgghhh!!!

Name: KCAMS
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:18:15 PM
         follow up to post by IanC   [ref]  
I don't know Ian. I am with you in a way as i am waiting for them to fall over but they just won't go away.

Why they can't win ? I dont think they have enough points in them and dont create enough inside the 40 to worry in the big games. Fien may change that but there halves and hooker cant control a game as playmakers.

Why they can ? an excellent coach, a born never say die attitude and a willing forward pack and speedy outside backs.

I may surprise plenty but i reckon it will one hell of a grand final week as two clubs with real passionate football supporters await for battle.

For me Melbourne is the team to beat - Slater Inglis Cronk and Smith are easily in the top 10 players in the game and when one team has 4 of them. That is hard to beat in a final series.

On tonight's game, with a fair refereeing and equal possession, i think we should win by 12 to 14 points. I think Manly is being hyped up at the moment. I think people are reflecting on last year's performances. I am sure we can see that the next 3 weeks is difficult due to origin and we have built up for this game.

Name: Gigolo
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:15:17 PM
         re: Inu  ::   follow up to post by KCAMS   [ref]  
Smack please

He is a good solid player but he is nowehere near Jared Hayne in ability, Hayne is a deadset freak. Also there is no way Greenberg would be dumb enough to pay him 275K a season, he will be looking at somebody at 150K-180K max.

If we used that much cap money on a guy like Inu it would be irresponsible and lead to us losing a genuine superstar down the track like Idris, Morris or Benny Hannant.

Also if you're suggesting we can sign Kemp, Geddes and Inu then where will they play because Patten has a mortgage on fullback, Goodwin one wing spot, Idris and Morris the centres and Benny Roberts and Noddy the Halves. That leaves one wing spot, are you suggesting we sign either Kemp or Inu for depth?? pretty expensive for 200K+

I reckon if the Warriors could pay a portion of Kemp contract for next year and we offer him 180K with incentives to get to 200K then that would be good business.

Failing that get a fast kid looking for opportunity.

Name: JLL
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:14:25 PM
         follow up to post by ZAP   [ref]  
No compare.

St George/Illawarra Premierships = 0

Name: ZAP
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:13:53 PM
         follow up to post by carms   [ref]  
Nightmare is an understatement! I got married in January of this year and trying to get divorced calabrese (hard headed) parents to agree on things while get try everything sorted almost made want to call the whole thing off! But in the end it turned out to be a great day albeit bloody hot!


Name: ZAP
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:10:19 PM
         follow up to post by dpdoggy   [ref]  
As much as i love what you've said, I think you'll find (from what i can remember hearing a few years ago) that St George-Illawarra have been 'allowed' to add the premierships of the St George Dragons to their record books. So that means according to the record books St George-Illawarra have won a premiership. Which is bullshit if you ask me.

I cant remember where i heard this, but im 99% sure it is the case but ill be more than happy to be proved incorrect!

Name: JLL
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:08:43 PM
         follow up to post by dpdoggy   [ref]  
& Saints have lost 5, LOL

1985 the best for obvious reasons but I did enjoy 1999 aswell!

Name: ButtNaked2004
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:07:59 PM
         re: Predict the score  ::   follow up to post by Annav2   [ref]  
Anna, I don't want any of the Manly players to score a try at all :)

Name: dpdoggy
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:07:12 PM
         follow up to post by IanC   [ref]  
exactly.

and in that time weve won 6. Its absolutley hilarious.

Some people never get one in their lifetime.

Name: ButtNaked2004
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:05:43 PM
         follow up to post by dpdoggy   [ref]  
dpdoggy I just tell them one thing and one thing only that cuts them the most. And that is they are not the St George Dragons that won 11 premierships in a row cause they don't exist no more and watch them only come up with 'look who's on top of the ladder' as their comeback haha.

Name: carms
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:04:46 PM
         follow up to post by Rowdy12   [ref]  
Yeah- the actual wedding day is absolutely fantastic but the preparation and planning can become very stressful indeed, especially in my case planning an Italian wedding. What a nightmare that was!

Name: Sonny Boy
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:04:07 PM
         follow up to post by IanC   [ref]  
So your missus is sillier than mine ?

Name: KCAMS
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:03:23 PM
         re: Inu  ::   follow up to post by puppy love   [ref]  
The club would be stupid not to. Can play fullback wing and centre and possibly five eighth. I would get rid of nanai winitana millard morrin leano d williams sullivan and a few others plus money from Kouparitsas. Haz is also gone. I am sure we could afford kemp geddes inu and a good young back rower

Name: JLL
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:03:12 PM
         follow up to post by IanC   [ref]  
Poor Nikki, LOL

Name: IanC
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:02:17 PM
         follow up to post by Sonny Boy   [ref]  
December 23 2009 will be my 30th wedding anniversary.

Name: Annav2
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:01:46 PM
         re: Predict the score  ::   follow up to post by JLL   [ref]  
I don't want the following players to score a try tonight:

Robertson
Stewart
Orford

I prefer the following to score a try:

Eastwood
Ballin
Farrar

Name: Sonny Boy
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:00:51 PM
         follow up to post by Rowdy12   [ref]  
I hate to scare you, but my wedding was on Decmber 5th. The scariest bit is we are still married after 26 years. Some women have no sense...

Name: IanC
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 01:00:33 PM
         follow up to post by dpdoggy   [ref]  
I arrived in Australia in January 1980 so I have been here 29 years and never seen St George win a Grand Final. Looks like I fekked them up good and proper because they won it a few months before I arrived LOL

Name: JLL
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 12:58:56 PM
         Predict the score  
Manly 24
Bulldogs 20

Name: the growler
Date: Monday, 06th July 2009, 12:58:24 PM
         re: Inu  ::   follow up to post by _G-Dog_   [ref]  
What would Kemp be commanding ?
Dont forget Steve Turner - He is playing very well at the moment,and is off contract.
I reckon he'd fit in well on the end of our backline,and I think he's a pretty well balanced individual off the field as well,which is obviously viewed as important nowadays.


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